Birds Nest Cafe

Image of Birds Nest restaurant sign
Birds Nest Restaurant Sign

Birds Nest Cafe, Chiang Mai:

  • Grilled Veggie Salad
  • Price: 120 baht
  • Score: 8/10
  • October 27th, 2016

I ended up eating at the Birds Nest Cafe today because the two other places along the way were closed. That’s not to say I don’t like Birds Nest, it was just further than I was hoping to walk in the heat.

I knew Birds Nest Cafe had veggie options and could probably make some vegan. As it turned out their menu is all vegetarian (but then has the option to add “free range organic chicken or pork” at an extra cost). So I guess they’re sort-of vegetarian. They also have a few vegan options.

I ordered their Grilled Veggie Salad. It doesn’t specify that it’s vegan on the menu but the ingredients listed were all vegan. I asked for no cheese just in case.

Plate with a bed of salad, red pepper, red onion, cashew nuts, tomato, green beans, grilled mushroom, and sesame seeds next to some cutlery and a glass of ginger tea
Grilled Veggie Salad at Birds Nest Cafe

The salad was a bed of leafy greens with red pepper, red onion, and grilled veggies, topped with cashew nuts and sesame seeds. The grilled vegetables are seasonal but I had tomato and green beans in mine. The veggies were actually pretty substantial. There was a lot of mushroom though and I’d have liked a few more different types of veg.

My salad came with a balsamic olive oil dressing but they also have a passion fruit dressing too. I think I poured too much oil on my salad so it was quite oily for me. But, I still really enjoyed it. I was really hot and really hungry. I wanted something light but filling and this did the trick and it tasted good.

The dish cost 120 baht which is pretty standard in Chiang Mai at the moment. It’s definitely more expensive than Thai food but Birds Nest tries to use organic vegetables as much as they can. Their food contains no preservatives, MSG or GMO and they try to support local farmers and stores. They also have a focus on homemade food (their bread, pita, bagels etc).

Birds Nest Cafe is a bit of a hippie cafe. You order and pay at the counter first. Then there are both tables and chairs to sit at, or Thai style mattresses to sit on the floor and eat at low tables. It can get a bit hot and sticky inside if it’s busy and others have claimed all the fans but usually there’s enough to go around. The wifi is pretty reliable too.

Comfortable tables and chairs in the downstairs area of Birds Nest cafe

Free Bird Cafe

Free Bird cafe sign and a large bird spray painted on the outside wall of the cafe in Chiang Mai
Free Bird Cafe Outside Wall

Free Bird Cafe, Chiang Mai:

  • Jok (rice porridge)
  • Price: 80 baht
  • Score: 9/10
  • October 24th, 2016

Free Bird Cafe is one of my go-to places to eat. I like their healthy menu and the food is always good. Their menu is vegetarian but with mostly vegan dishes.

Today for lunch I had jok. Jok is rice porridge which is a traditional dish in Thailand. It’s basically ground up, boiled rice where they leave a lot of the water in it. Kinda like creamy porridge oats. In fact, you may be familiar with Jok from the film the Hangover. If you recall the reference it’s usually somewhat bland but nutritious (like Stu).

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It was a dreary, rainy day in CM and I wanted to eat something warm and comforting. Rainy days make me homesick for England where it’s rainy most of the time. Porridge was just what I wanted.

Jok at Free Bird Cafe is made from boiled purple rice, instead of the usual white jasmine rice. Purple rice is my favourite and also pretty healthy.

So boiled purple rice is the main ingredient, mixed with some diced veggies and topped with pickled ginger, green onion and fried garlic, with a slice of lime on the side. It tasted really good.

A bowl of vegan jok containing brown rice, lime, pickled ginger and fried onions
A bowl of Vegan Jok at Free Bird Cafe

I’m a big fan of ginger and the ginger and garlic gave it way more taste than I was expecting. There were some carrots mixed in which I didn’t really like and left to the side. Carrots aside it was a really tasty dish. It was served piping hot and was a good portion size.

The Jok cost 80 baht which is one of the cheaper options at Free Bird Café. In a regular Thai place you’d probably pay 25-50 baht and it wouldn’t be vegan – just boiled rice and chicken or some other meat.

Free Bird Café has a lovely laid back atmosphere, there are plenty of fans around the place and big windows and open doors. There are also big tables at which you’ll see many people getting some work done on their laptops. The wifi is usually pretty reliable there too and there is never a feeling of being rushed out.  The staff often disappear into the back and just pop their head out to check if anyone wants their attention every now and then. You can easily while away a few hours here.

Large table with bench and stools inside free bird cafe
Free Bird Cafe large tables to work at
Several large tables, benches and stools to sit at inside free bird cafe
Seating area at Free Bird Cafe, second hand clothes and books for sale

How to eat Vegan in Thailand

People often wonder how I could possibly ever survive here in Chiang Mai as a vegan. Considering I’ve been here well over 10 years and I still haven’t died, I think I’m doing fairly well. There is veggie food all around you, and I’m not just talking the salad shops that have sprung up in the last 2 years or. There are tons of veggie spots in town. On Suthep road alone, there are 3 lined up in a row each doing their own thing and there are 3 more down back roads within 5 minute walking distance from the first 3.

**Tip: Keep an eye out for the yellow vegetarian flags.

chinese vegetarian in thailand
Look for the yellow jeh flags.

There are 2 main types of veggie eats in Thailand and while they both avoid meat entirely, there are a some important differences.

Jeh versus Mung

มังสวิรัติ [mung sa wi rut] comes from the Sanskrit mamsa, which means “meat” and virat which means “without.” So this is essentially an acceptable translation of “vegetarian.” As with in English, some people may or may not eat eggs and/or dairy.
เจ [jeh] comes from the Chinese word 齋 (jai1/jaai1) which is also the source for the equivalent words in Korean, Japanese, and Vietnamese.

If you happen to be reading this in October, then you are in luck, my friend. That’s the easiest time of year to eat vegan in Thailand. This is when the Vegetarian Festival (เทศกาลกินเจ) happens. During that time almost everybody gets on the jeh train for a bit. Some people eat jeh for the entire month, the entire 10 day festival, and most franchise restaurants (Black Canyon, MK, etc) offer at least one jeh option, but some actually have a full jeh menu during the festival. The only downside is that a lot of regular jeh restaurants don’t really do anything special during this time except get a lot more crowded than usual and in some cases raise their prices. Yay for jeh.
As far as the food goes, the main difference between Jeh and Mung is that real Jeh forbids eating food with really strong flavours and/or smells as it is believed that each one does harm to different parts of the body. This includes stuff like chives, garlic, parsley, and onions.

So what does all this mean for you? Real Jeh food will always be vegan. But, you need to be careful as some jeh places will have 1 or 2 Mung options which may contain egg. And even though jeh avoids really strong flavours, it can still taste pretty awesome. They often make all kinds of fake vegan meats to help ease the suffering of all those poor meat eaters who torture themselves by abstaining from me for a meal, a day or the entire vegetarian festival.

What are my choices?

  • Jeh – Technically vegan, but watch out for those handful of places that will have one or 2 dishes with egg. Jeh spots will almost always have one or more yellow flags posted both inside and out. The flag will either say เจ , the Chinese character the word is based on or both. They often use a Chinese-y font so sometimes the word เจ looks a bit like the number “17”.
  • Mung(sawirat) – Vegetarian w/eggs. As far as things eaten with rice, dairy is pretty rare, but pastries and other sweets sold at Mung places may contain butter, cream and/or milk.

What do I do if I can’t find a jeh place?

Some regular restaurants may attempt to accommodate you or at least make you think they are doing so.

Watch out for:

Vegetable dishes at regular spots will always contain oyster sauce. Oyster sauce is dark, oily and gummy. And it comes from oysters! If you don’t want it in there, you gotta say so. You’ll know if it’s not in there, because they will probably only have used soy sauce and vegetable oil. So it may be bland, but vegan.
Solution: ไม่ ใส่ น้ำมันหอย (mai sai nam-man-hoi) – Don’t put in oyster sauce.

Fish sauce is another standard ingredient in a lot of (almost all!) Thai dishes.
Solution: ไม่ ใส่ น้ำปลา (mai sai nam-plaa)
Soup broth – At non-jeh places, even if they say there isn’t any meat in it, it will still have meat stock so skip the soup.

Dishes that usually Contain Egg:
ข้าวผัด – fried rice (khaao pad)
ผัดไทย – pad thai
ผัดซีอิ๊ว – pad see-yu
*ผัด (pad) = stir-fried/sauteed
Solution: ไม่ ใส่ ไข่ (mai sai kai)

Even if you ask for something jeh, they don’t always really know what that means so you are better off making it as clear as possible.

Full Sentence: เอา ข้าวผัด เจ ไม่ใส่ไข่ (ow kaaw pad jeh mai sai kai) – I’d like friend rice (jeh) without egg.

First thing you want to do is find out if they are willing to try to make you something jeh/mung. And just because they tell you they can, doesn’t mean they aren’t going to forget and give you something wish oyster sauce or fish sauce. Aside from being a tonal language, Thai also contains a whole lot more vowel sounds than English and when you say the vowels wrong, people probably won’t understand you. Be patient with them as you are the one who needs something from them and may not be able to
speak their language.

I remember this one time, a buddy of mine ordered a bottle of water and got a coconut, so watch out friends, watch out.

Just follow the yellow flag folks.  The word เจ in Thai when written in the Chinese-y font below kinda looks like a 17.

chinese vegetarian in thailand
Look for the yellow jeh flags.